 I know that some think Jesus was a first born Son of God in heaven. To argue that; In John1; It is written that in the beginning Jesus is the Word of God. That Jesus became an Only Begotten Son of God when he was conceived in the virgin Mary about 2000yrs ago. The Sons of God are the winged Cherubims. Some think Jesus is Michael the Arch Angel (winged Cherubim). Some think He was the first born spirit Son of God (winged Cherubim). 2. So do these religions really have an Angel for their Jesus? 3. And could that Angel be Lucifer, the fallen Halal (bright boasting)? 4. Biblically, Lucifer was a beautiful winged Cherubim. Biblically Jesus is the Word of God. So if a religion has a different Jesus than the Yahweh Jesus Christ (Lord Yeshua Messiah); then their Jesus has to be someone else; who is a liar; Right? |
September 3rd, 2009 a las 5:10 am
This is like reading a question comparing Harry Potter and Edward Cullen and which pokemon cards they would use in a battle.
September 4th, 2009 a las 1:35 pm
“So if a religion has a different Jesus than the Yahweh Jesus Christ (Lord Yeshua Messiah); then their Jesus has to be someone else; who is a liar; Right?”
You’ve got to understand that the entire planet doesn’t take the Bible literally, so making arguments from the Bible is probably only going to make sense to a Fundamentalist or some other type of literalist. Jesus can be construed in a number of different ways, as can any religious figure. There is no single group that owns a copyright on Christ. You may perceive him one way, and another person will see him differently. Not everybody has to believe exactly as you do.
September 4th, 2009 a las 11:08 pm
Just because 2 people have diff interpretations of the Bible doesnt mean their Jesus’ are different.
If you read and study and believe in the Jesus of the Bible, even if you have differing interpretations and views of the nature of that person, then its the same Jesus.
September 6th, 2009 a las 5:13 am
certainly they have been deceived by satan but whether he is pretending to be Jesus I do not know but doubt.
September 7th, 2009 a las 9:38 pm
teh mormons version of jesus was that he suffered for sins in the garden so they haveno need for a cross, that would explain why they do not wear one.Their satan is not the head cheribum that some christians think, he was Jesus brother.
I have never heard of these other angel jesus beliefs.
September 8th, 2009 a las 6:40 am
Riiiight… Anyway, Laptop Jesus for the win.
September 10th, 2009 a las 10:31 am
Suggest you read “The Pagan Christ” by Tom Harpur. The “Christian” bible (New Testament) has been plagiarized from many other works and traditional stories of a “Jesus” handed down through the millenium. Also most of the stories about miracles, the flood, etc. are old news.
September 12th, 2009 a las 11:16 pm
Apollyon.
Revelation 9:11 – And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
September 14th, 2009 a las 3:56 am
if it isn’t Christ it is then anti-Christ. Not THE anti-Christ, but the spirit of anti-Christ. It was prophesied by Jesus as well as Paul that there would be false “Christs” and other “gospels” as well as false prophets and false teachers, false signs and lying wonders.
It is also written that satan would appear as “an angel of light”.
There were plenty of those things going on in the day of the first century Christians, and it will increased and continue through to the day that Jesus returns and after Armageddon, sets up His Kingdom for 1000 years.
The “sons of God” is lower case, when referring to the angels. God only has one Son. And it is God manifested in the flesh as you said, for the purpose of the salvation of mankind.
September 17th, 2009 a las 1:32 am
Each individual has their own perspective about God and Jesus. None of which are written in stone, save the 10 commandments.
lol…
Not everyone is going to have the exact same perspective on a higher power but what resonates with their own personal Truth.
What God is to me and what God is to my next door neighbor, can be two completely different things. And that’s okay, with me anyway.
September 17th, 2009 a las 2:23 pm
Well I beleive in Jesus….but not as the son of God but as a prophet and messanger.=)…..Just as Moses was….a messenger
He was born without a father because God wanted him to be born.
No one is the son of God
September 18th, 2009 a las 12:26 am
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God.
The word of God came down in human flesh. Jesus is the savior sent to redeem the people of their sin.
The only son begotten of the father.Who sits at the right hand of the father. I and my father are one,you see the son you see the father.
Jesus says pray this way . Our father who art in heaven.
Jesus prays to the father about the disciples make them one as you and I are one.One in mind will body and spirit. We become one with God and Christ and shows to me we will have the same will we will be of the same thinking what God see’s as unrighteous we also will and one can not sin against ones own will.
September 18th, 2009 a las 12:31 am
Islam-jesus is only a prophet,judaism-no clear understanding,but all jews reject jesus as messiah.Otherwise he/she donot belong to judaism.Jehovah witness-jesus is only an angel(michael).These are the main 3,there may be others.I believe all people weather christian/non christian should accept jesus as messiah,since he fulfilled 413 messianic prophecies of old testament/septuigant/torah/tanakh and also prophecies of other books like hindu vedas(rig veda,bahvisya purana).
September 18th, 2009 a las 1:59 am
Jesus is eternally God (John 1:1; 8:58; cf. Ex. 3:14) and has the exact same divine nature as the Father (John 5:18; 10:30; Heb. 1:3). Indeed, a comparison of the OT and NT equates Jesus with Jehovah (compare Isa. 43:11 with Titus 2:13; Isa. 44:24 with Col. 1:16; Isa. 6:1–5 with John 12:41). Jesus himself created the angels (Col. 1:16; cf. John 1:3; Heb. 1:2, 10) and is worshiped by them (Heb. 1:6).
The description of Jesus as the “only begotten” refers to his being the Father’s unique, one-of-a-kind Son for all eternity, with the same divine nature as the Father (see note on John 1:14; cf. John 1:18; 3:16, 18; see also John 5:18; 10:30). Moreover, he is eternal deity (John 1:1; 8:58) and is immutable (Heb. 1:10–12; 13:8), meaning he did not progress to deity but has always been God. And Mary’s conception of Jesus in his humanity was through a miracle of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 1:20).
Biblically, while it is true that there is only one God (Isa. 44:6; 45:18; 46:9; John 5:44; 1 Cor. 8:4; James 2:19), it is also true that three persons are called God in Scripture: the Father (1 Pet. 1:2), Jesus (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8), and the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3–4). Each of these three possesses the attributes of deity—including omnipresence (Ps. 139:7; Jer. 23:23–24; Matt. 28:20), omniscience (Ps. 147:5; John 16:30; 1 Cor. 2:10–11), omnipotence (Jer. 32:17; John 2:1–11; Rom. 15:19), and eternality (Ps. 90:2; Heb. 9:14; Rev. 22:13). Still further, each of the three is involved in doing the works of deity—such as creating the universe: the Father (Gen. 1:1; Ps. 102:25), the Son (John 1:3; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:2), and the Holy Spirit (Gen. 1:2; Job 33:4; Ps. 104:30). The Bible indicates that there is three-in-oneness in the godhead (Matt. 28:19; cf. 2 Cor. 13:14).
There is only one Jesus and only one correct interpretation of scripture. If you have faith in a ‘jesus’ other than described, you have created an idol, no different than bowing down to a golden calf. It is impossible to have saving faith when you do not know the real Jesus to have faith in. If you die in your sins and have a false view of Jesus you will experience the wrath of God as penalty for sin. Put your faith in Jesus today and be forgiven and inherit eternal life with Jesus.
In John 1:3 “All things” includes the whole universe, indicating that (except for God) everything that exists was created and that (except for God) nothing has existed eternally. “Made through him” follows the consistent pattern of Scripture in saying that God the Father carried out his creative works through the activity of the Son (cf. 1 Cor. 8:6; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:2). This verse disproves any suggestion that the Word (or the Son, John 1:14) was created, for the Father would have had to do this by himself, and John says that nothing was created that way, for “without him was not any thing made that was made”.